tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post3632650261883501424..comments2024-03-27T23:03:58.848-06:00Comments on The Warrior Muse: Is Post-Apocalyptic the New Western?Shannon Lawrencehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00934641808195675935noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-6272596209635473742017-04-12T02:16:41.024-06:002017-04-12T02:16:41.024-06:00It's definitely depressing. Things keep gettin...It's definitely depressing. Things keep getting scarier.Shannon Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934641808195675935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-35545523373098409492017-04-12T02:14:05.954-06:002017-04-12T02:14:05.954-06:00I was a fan of both the westerns and Dirty Harry, ...I was a fan of both the westerns and Dirty Harry, but I grew up on those. He's outlasted other action figures of those times, either way.Shannon Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934641808195675935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-68183872434579401552017-04-12T02:09:51.848-06:002017-04-12T02:09:51.848-06:00I'm glad it's not just me who can see it!I'm glad it's not just me who can see it!Shannon Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934641808195675935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-79374952245020554572017-04-12T02:08:23.750-06:002017-04-12T02:08:23.750-06:00What was the verdict?What was the verdict?Shannon Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934641808195675935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-37971176733385526302017-04-12T02:06:19.172-06:002017-04-12T02:06:19.172-06:00Yes, they're very independently focused, and p...Yes, they're very independently focused, and people tend to be attracted to that. Maybe it helps them feel like they might have a chance in similar circumstances.Shannon Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934641808195675935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-46029919518008477942017-04-12T01:59:47.955-06:002017-04-12T01:59:47.955-06:00I didn't realize Italian directors had turned ...I didn't realize Italian directors had turned to post-apoc. I'll have to look into that more. I wonder what it is about life/government in Italy that inspires them toward western/post apoc.Shannon Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934641808195675935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-46269498879741862782017-04-12T01:57:22.592-06:002017-04-12T01:57:22.592-06:00Zombies are everywhere! Before, they were associat...Zombies are everywhere! Before, they were associated with consumerism. I wonder if that's still the case, or if they've morphed into a different meaning.Shannon Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934641808195675935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-43592942180886129032017-04-12T01:53:25.171-06:002017-04-12T01:53:25.171-06:00Sometimes, though rarely, I can get deep. ;)Sometimes, though rarely, I can get deep. ;)Shannon Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934641808195675935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-74349200372688569872017-04-12T01:48:23.678-06:002017-04-12T01:48:23.678-06:00I've been wanting to watch the original again....I've been wanting to watch the original again. Now I can do it for research.Shannon Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934641808195675935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-33014529069127322652017-04-12T01:43:16.084-06:002017-04-12T01:43:16.084-06:00Me, too! There will always be a way to explore tha...Me, too! There will always be a way to explore that type of world, especially during stressful times.Shannon Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934641808195675935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-71402411963581680562017-04-12T01:39:56.690-06:002017-04-12T01:39:56.690-06:00Ah good! When I posted it, I was afraid I'd ju...Ah good! When I posted it, I was afraid I'd just be told I was crazy. The big government point is a big one!Shannon Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934641808195675935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-32599318261831218232016-11-28T21:17:10.919-07:002016-11-28T21:17:10.919-07:00I grew up on those westerns too. I think the shift...I grew up on those westerns too. I think the shift to all the post apocalypse is a reflection of people seeing how close we are to messing things up for humanity for good. It's a bit despressing.Susan Gourley/Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02669793865290876168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-33338728437492364322016-11-28T19:27:12.156-07:002016-11-28T19:27:12.156-07:00I'm not sure I agree that post-apocalyptic sto...I'm not sure I agree that post-apocalyptic stories are similar to or the result of morphing of old trad westerns. During the western's heyday, a simpler time, the late forties and fifties the public needed 'no-brainer' type movies with big heroes, and glamour gals, to balance off all the war movies that were also big at that time. When many now see governments failing and alliances falling apart, post-apocalyptic movies give us a chance to explore what if, and when we had to prove we could survive in a world without the comforts that have made many 'soft'. It also explains why so many people are eager to prove themselves in various bootcamps and survival events. (see the many tv shows, aka reality shows, on how to survive in the mountains, the jungle, and the swamp). One thing I am so so so tired of is 'zombies'. They remind me of insects. . .I appreciate the thought and research that you did put into this post, Shannon. That Clint Eastwood info is perfect. I didn't like his Dirty Harry days, I preferred his spaghetti westerns.D.G. Hudsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06213237734772028645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-60295969969901209492016-11-28T17:48:28.268-07:002016-11-28T17:48:28.268-07:00What a fascinating post. You definitely gave us a ...What a fascinating post. You definitely gave us a lot to think about. I like how you presented all the information. I can see connections between westerns and post-apocalyptic fiction. I'll definitely be thinking about this for a while. :) <br />~JessDMShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04202502753961748992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-23758046892545613652016-11-28T14:25:26.286-07:002016-11-28T14:25:26.286-07:00I'll have to think about this one...I'll have to think about this one...Andrew Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13964775673414653644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-32967002528593408662016-11-28T13:41:34.010-07:002016-11-28T13:41:34.010-07:00They are similar in that it's usually survival...They are similar in that it's usually survival on an individual level. Interesting how all of those things connect.Alex J. Cavanaughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09770065693345181702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-69874061926209396382016-11-28T12:24:15.759-07:002016-11-28T12:24:15.759-07:00I definitely think you are correct in connecting t...I definitely think you are correct in connecting the themes of westerns and post-apocalyptic fiction. I'd also say that it may not be a coincidence that after turning out so many westerns in previous decades, Italian genre directors turned a great deal of attention to post-apocalyptic films in the '80s.Jonathan Linnemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04711517194240426383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-49236310708765704222016-11-28T12:04:26.770-07:002016-11-28T12:04:26.770-07:00Good title:) I think it is the new western, but th...Good title:) I think it is the new western, but there were a lot of stops on the way. Remember how everything had a vampire in it two years ago? Now it's zombies. Yay;) Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01793077012143289985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-10349344736425176882016-11-28T10:21:31.335-07:002016-11-28T10:21:31.335-07:00That's a really interesting analysis! I hadn&#...That's a really interesting analysis! I hadn't really thought about the connections between the two genres and current events.The Cynical Sailorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11047491682363507834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-38140943312205247762016-11-28T09:33:55.051-07:002016-11-28T09:33:55.051-07:00You've made some excellent observations here a...You've made some excellent observations here and I think your argument has a lot of credibility. I've thought similar things recently. Over the week-end my wife and I watched the original <i>Red Dawn</i> and noted a Western connection even there.<br /><br />But, yeah, the settings and stories of the post-apocalyptic genre do seem to have a similarity to Westerns. And the modern Westerns have often veered off of a far different path than what was traditionally seen in the past. <br /><br />Arlee Bird<br /><a href="http://tossingitout.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Tossing It Out</a><br />Arlee Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-24038713038236732662016-11-28T08:22:09.312-07:002016-11-28T08:22:09.312-07:00I completely agree with you, and you put it so nic...I completely agree with you, and you put it so nicely. Post-apocalyptic films and books do have those connections to westerns. Makes me wonder what is next on the horizon.Christine Rainshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08263694662585963900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7646134662936278718.post-13425254282092810342016-11-28T07:24:19.682-07:002016-11-28T07:24:19.682-07:00This was so interesting to read! And I never would...This was so interesting to read! And I never would have thought of it myself but yes, I do agree about post-apocalyptic films and westerns. The connections seem clear. I can certainly understand the appeal of stories that remove big government right now! <br />Thanks for sharing this, gave me lots to chew on. :)Julie Flandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05003737491313673214noreply@blogger.com